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    Default My new science project!

    So I keep watching these MythBuster episodes and just find myself thinking about shooting into some ballistics gel! So I decided to figure it out! Turned out to be really easy to make, just a little pricey. If you want to make 2 quarts (8 cups) of ballistics it is going to set you back $8 at the local grocery store for the knox gelatin.

    I ended up making 6 quarts of gel for myself. This gives me 2 different blocks to shoot at. This ended up setting me back about $23. But the upside is that you can melt it back down and reuse it. Just make sure you try to keep it as clean as possible.

    My experiment:
    I have heard so much about these Glaser Safety Slugs. I think the concept is awesome, but just want to put one particular one to test. I have been told by many people and read many articles explaining that give you were to shoot through an interior wall that when the Glaser comes out of the other side it will not hurt someone. My experiment is exactly that! I went out and bought dry wall (regular) and 2 by 4 studs and built myself some mini walls. I am going to put the gel on the other side of that "wall" and see how deep the penetration is if any.

    I am also going to shoot 3 other rounds through the drywall for fun.

    Hydro-Shock, Hollow Point, and FMJ.

    This way we can see exactly how well these would do if you were to shoot through a wall. Plus I just kind of want to do it :)

    If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I will try to get video and post that on YouTube for you guys, but worst comes to worst and I get some pictures of the aftermath.
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    I am really looking forward to this!! Are you shooting through 1 piece of dry wall or 2? walls generally have 1 layer, studs, then a second layer.

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    Doing your own "Pepsi Challenge" side by side ballistic tests is always fun and usually enlightening.
    Looking forward to reading your report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decline View Post
    I am really looking forward to this!! Are you shooting through 1 piece of dry wall or 2? walls generally have 1 layer, studs, then a second layer.
    Yup just got done building the walls. I used exactly what you would buy if you were doing an interior wall. So drywall, stud on each side, and then another piece of drywall. Should be entertaining, and to make it even more entertaining we are going to be setting up a fourth wall for a 12 gauge :)

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    Looking forward to the results. I am not familiar with the glaser, so I need to do some research myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWFFT View Post
    Looking forward to the results. I am not familiar with the glaser, so I need to do some research myself.
    Glaser Blue cartridges have been around a LONG time, since the 70s. They're the only "exotic" cartridge I trust, mostly because they're the only one with an actual shooting performance track record. The quality control is EXCELLENT as Glaser is loaded by Cor-Bon, an industry leader in small arms ammunition.

    Way back in the day when commercial ammo choices were few, Glaser was the way to go to juice-up the lower powered calibers. In actual shootings Glaser Blue .38 Special +P has produced a one-shot-stop 84% of the time. In 10% Gelatin it rarely exceeded 7", so it dumps ALL it's energy into the badguy without the danger of over-penetration.

    It's not a good choice for today's LEOs, Federal Agents (with the exception of Sky Marshals who the cartridge was designed for in the first place), or the Military, because they have to be prepared to take the offensive, to pursue, and shoot through a barrier at the badguy. For citizen personal defense however, it remains a top-shelf choice today, especially for the lower powered cartridges of .38 Special and .380ACP. In actual shootings Glaser Blue .380ACP has produced a one-shot-stop 75% of the time.

    Today the more modern Glaser Pow'RBall catridges, designed with a deep pentrating bullet, are also an excellent choice for personal defense. Glaser Blue is the true original that still stacks up very well as one of the best personal defense rounds you can carry.


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    Thanks Jim for the great info!
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    I think you should get a flame thrower and see if that would work for effective home defense.

    Also, I have a violent streak running through me.....

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    Default making Gel ...

    Well shibmaster, arent you going to post the formula for the gel .. that sounds like fun to make but I have no cooking skills at all but being able to make the gel and reuse it would be cool, didnt know you could reuse it. while at pelican bay state prison working, i was aware of the guards inside the cell blocks used glazer to prevent bullets from bouncing around the concrete block ... they used the mini 14.
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    Post 10% ordnance gelatin preparation and test procedure

    10% ORDNANCE GELATIN PREPARATION AND TEST PROCEDURE
    http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/volume3/number2/article1.htm


    A Glaser Pow'RBall 9mm punches its way 10" into ballistic gel and expands to .58 inch!


    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=530680
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